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Just a thought on tithing…

21 Jun

With so much emphasis on finances and the economy…the question might be raised, why tithe?

I have just a quick thought on tithing.  Recently a friend of mine, Robbin Arnold, posted a blog called Turn on a Dime.

http://kingdomcompass.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/turn-on-a-dime/

And then another friend shared during prayer, that in her research, the French definition for dime is tithe.

(The tithe is 10% of all of our increase.  It’s Holy and it belongs to God.)

As soon as I heard her words, a bomb went off in my Spirit. 

TURN ON A TITHE! 

The word of God says this of tithing…

Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that [there shall] not [be room] enough [to receive it].  Malachi 3:10

When we tithe…it is proof! Proof that God has provided for us! It’s proof that we cannot provide for ourselves.  It’s proof that God is faithful, over and over again to open up the windows of heaven and pour into our lives.

When we tithe, we are counting our blessings.

In counting our blessings…there is sure to be a turn around!

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Posted by on June 21, 2011 in Money, Tithing

 

9 responses to “Just a thought on tithing…

  1. Gary Arnold

    June 22, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    NO ONE, absolutely NO ONE pays the Biblical tithe today.

    Leviticus 27:30-33, Numbers 18: The First Tithe – a tenth of crops and animals and commanded to take the tithe to the Levites.

    Deuteronomy 14:22-27: The Second Tithe aka The Festival Tithe – a tenth of crops, plus add to that the firstborn animals, and take for the yearly feast.

    Deuteronomy 14:28-29: The Third Tithe aka The Three-Year Tithe aka The Poor Tithe – a tenth of crops, kept at home, and invite the Levites, widows, orphans, stranger to eat.

    Now, tell me. Which of the above three tithes commanded by God does anyone follow today?

    The ONLY people in the Old Testament that were commanded to tithe were those who INHERITED THE PROMISED LAND WITH EVERYTHING ON IT. They got the land, house, animals, crops, etc. ALL FREE AND CLEAR. No mortgage payment or rent to pay. And THEY were commanded to tithe on the crops and animals and take it to the Levites who INHERITED the tithe INSTEAD OF the promised land with everything on it. No one else tithed. Wage earners did not tithe. Jesus didn’t tithe as a carpenter. Paul didn’t tithe as a tent maker. Peter didn’t tithe as a fisherman.

    Let’s look at Malachi 3. First, who is God speaking to – the priests or the people?
    We need to study the entire Book of Malachi rather than take a few verses out of context.

    By the time we get to verse 6 in chapter 1, we see it is the priests that are being addressed at that point.

    In both chapters 1 and 2 of Malachi there is a conversation going on between God and the priests. Every time the word “you” is used, it is referring to the priests. Chapter 3 continues with this conversation. In verse 5 God says “And I will come near to you to judgment…..” In the Old Testament, during this period of time and generally speaking, only the priests could get near to God. It is only in the New Testament that born again believers, you and I, can get close to God. So up to chapter 3 verse 5, God is speaking to the priests. The word “you” is still referring to the priests. There is nothing in the scripture to indicate this changes when you get to verse 8. But that’s not all.

    Read Numbers 18:29-30 and then read Malachi 1:14. Those verses explain robbing God of the offerings. The PRIESTS, not the people, robbed God of the offering by giving to God the worst instead of the best.

    In Nehemiah 13 we are told that the priests stole the Levites portion of the tithe; therefore, they had no food to eat at the temple, and they went back to their own fields.

    Therefore, taking the Levites portion of the tithe is the robbing God of the tithe. Or to put it another way, THE LEVITES WERE ROBBED. God said He was robbed because the tithe was not taken where God directed.

    Next, in Malachi 3:10 God says to bring all the tithes to the storehouse. The people took the tithes to the Levites who lived in the Levitical cities, not to the temple. The Levites took the required tithe of the tithe to the temple. (See Nehemiah 10:37-38) Only those tithes ever made it to the temple. The priests then took those tithes to the storehouse. It only makes sense if God is speaking to the priests in this verse.

    Since in Numbers 18 God makes it perfectly clear that the tithe belongs to Him, and He gave it to the Levites, anyone who takes God’s tithe to their local church must also be robbing God since the Levites are not the ones getting it.

    I see no way around this. Either the tithe ended per Hebrews 7:18, OR those who take God’s tithe to their local church must be robbing God since God gave clear instructions where to take His tithe. There is nothing in God’s Word to show that God ever changed those instructions. Therefore, the only conclusion I can reach is that taking a tithe to your local church is NOT paying the tithe to God. It is giving it to man. Nowhere in God’s Word does He give permission for the Christian Church to receive His tithe.

    Therefore, IT IS A SIN AGAINST GOD to take God’s tithe to your local church. IT IS A SIN for any pastor to accept God’s tithe.

     
    • insimplicity

      June 22, 2011 at 8:05 pm

      When we get to heaven, we’ll talk about it then, openly and freely before God. Until then, I’ll continue to bring my tithe. It’s my privilege. He is worthy.

      Proverbs 20:3, It is to a man’s honor to avoid strife, but every fool is quick to quarrel.

       
      • Gary Arnold

        June 22, 2011 at 8:10 pm

        2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV)
        16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
        17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

        Mark 7:13 (NIV)
        13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”

        2 Timothy 4:4 (NIV)
        4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

         
  2. timothy livengood

    June 23, 2011 at 3:30 am

    sister stacey , have to share scripture scriptures Holy Spirit quickend me as i read Mr. Arnolds reply . 1 peter 2:1-10 esp. verse 9 . But you are a chosen generation , a royal priesthood , a holy nation , His own special people , that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light, . Romans 10 : 14,15 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher?And how shall they preach unless they are sent . John 3:16 , God gave the precious life blood of His Son Jesus, a very high cost to redeem me , how can i get upset over tithes and offerings when truthfully i should be giving 100 percent of all of me !!! hey the earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof .

     
  3. timothy livengood

    June 23, 2011 at 3:41 am

    your post starts out with a statement question , a simular one was asked of Jesus and His response was; give to ceasar what is ceasar’s and to God what is Gods .

     
  4. Gary Arnold

    June 23, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Yes, give to Ceasar what is Ceasar’s and to God what is God’s.

    What that is saying is, the coin with Ceasar’s image on it was to be used to pay Ceasar’s tax. A coin with Ceasar’s image on it was not allowed to be used to pay the Temple Tax, or tribute.

    WE were made in God’s image. Therefore, we are to give OURSELVES to God.

    Has nothing to do with money or tithing.

    And yes, we are a chosen generation, a Royal Priesthood. According to the scriptures, priests do not tithe. As priests, all born-again believers are equal. There is no better or lesser among us. God has not designated any born-again believers to collect His tithe.
    To try and “tithe” today is denying that you are a part of the Royal Priesthood.

     
  5. Gary Arnold

    June 24, 2011 at 12:06 am

    I don’t want anyone to misunderstand me or my motives. I believe we are under a HIGHER standard than those in the Old Testament.

    The New Testament teaches generous, sacrificial giving, from the heart, according to our means. For some, $1 might be a sacrifice, while for others, even giving 50% of their income might not induce a sacrifice. In the Old Testament, ONLY the farmers tithed, and it was equal percentage (a tenth). The New Testament teaches the principle of equal sacrifice instead of equal percentage. Equal sacrifice is much harder to achieve, if not impossible, than giving ten percent.

    Many give a tenth of their income and believe they have been obedient and done their part whereas God may have wanted them to give far more than a tenth. Using a tenth as the rule or even as a guideline takes the heart out of the equation.

    If you believe that you must give a tenth of your income in order to be obedient to God, then you are putting yourself under the OT laws. According to the scriptures, doing so you fall from grace, and you will be cursed by the law.

    Jesus paid the whole price. Not a part of it. Plus the fact that no one is being obedient to an Old Testament law by changing God’s definition of His tithe, and also changing God’s command to take the tithe to the Levites. I guess some people think they know what’s best rather than follow God’s Word.

     
  6. insimplicity

    June 24, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    Abraham gave to Melchizedek a tenth….
    Genesis 14:20, “And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.”

    Sir, Abraham was not under the law. This took place before the law was brought forth. He was under grace.

    I know that Father corrects those He loves. Correction should never come in the form of condemnation. The way of correction is love.

    1 Corinthians 16:14 says “Do everything in love.”

    I sense no love at all in your approach and I have a hard time believing Father would talk to me the way you have.

    John 13:35, “By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

    You are loved.

     
  7. Gary Arnold

    June 24, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    My teaching comes from my heart, in love. I may not come across the best way that I should, probably because I am frustrated that so many are being taught by false teachers. If I have come across in a bad way, I apologize.

    Let’s look closely at Abram’s tithe. First, the goods that Abram gave the tenth from didn’t even belong to Abram:

    Genesis 14:21 (KJV) – And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself.

    Notice in verse 21 the king of Sodom didn’t ask Abram if he would give back to him the people, but rather said GIVE ME the people and keep the goods for yourself. The way that is worded indicates that the king of Sodom was claiming that the people and the goods belonged to him, but he offered the goods to Abram.

    It would normally have been the custom that the victor owns the spoils, but normally the spoils would have belonged to the enemy. In this case, Abram was RECOVERING goods belonging to the King of Sodom.

    NOTE: The king of Sodom had an original right both to the persons and to the goods, and it would bear a debate whether Abram’s acquired right by rescue would supersede his title and extinguish it; but, to prevent all quarrels, the king of Sodom makes this fair proposal (v. 21).
    –Should the Church Teach Tithing by Dr. Russell Earl Kelly, pages 24-25

    Genesis 14:22-24 (KJV)
    22And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,
    23That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich:
    24Save only that which the young men have eaten, and the portion of the men which went with me, Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre; let them take their portion.

    Notice in verses 23 and 24 Abram also acknowledges that the goods belonged to the king of Sodom. But the king of Sodam offered that Abram could keep the goods for himself. Abram declined the offer. He didn’t want man to take credit for his wealth. By not accepting any of the goods for himself, Abram was putting all his faith in God to provide for him rather than man.

    Therefore, it is clear that both the king of Sodom and Abram acknowledged that the spoils of war did NOT belong to Abram, yet he gave a tenth of the spoils to King Melchizedek. This would seem that Abram did something wrong, if not even illegal, but Biblical historians agree that it was custom in Abram’s day to give the king a tenth of the war spoils. Had Abram not given the tenth, he would have gone against custom.

    Conclusion: Abram did NOT give a tenth of his income, or his wealth. Abram gave a tenth of the spoils of war that didn’t belong to him and declined to keep the goods offered to him. That is NOT an example of tithing for Christians to follow today. By declining to keep any of the goods for himself, Abram showed his faith that God would provide. That is the example of faith that Christians should be following. Furthermore, the law did NOT require a tenth of war spoils to be given, so to say that tithing was before the law and then in the law is not true. What Abram did was NOT even codified into the later law.

     

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