Since my last post, I have had such an interesting exchange. The kind that provokes me. You know…the “makes you stop and think” kind.
I’ve been examining why I believe what I believe.
One of the questions that surfaced was that of “predestination”.
For context purposes and because comments are public, for all to read, I will insert the question at hand.
So does it seem fair that God created people who reject Him even though He knew they would reject Him? Does that seem loving and fair to you? Similarly, what passages do you cite for evidence of Predestination?
Truthfully, I have always just read over the following passages and accepted them and never really gave thoughtful account to their application.
Like I said, this is seemingly a divine exchange. Questions asked (ultimately prompted by God) to draw an answer from me.
Here is my answer and after you have read, I invite you to bring something to the table on this as well if you’d like. I welcome the truth in love.
I do not believe that God created a people who would reject Him.
What is better? To have a creation that “has” to love Him or “wants” to love Him? It does seem loving to me that He would do this. An arranged marriage is not based on “love”. It’s based on “pre-destination”, according to man. I would not want a man to be my husband based on that kind of “pre-destinatIon”, any more than I believe that God would want a “bride”, who has no choice in being His wife. And we are His bride.
The scriptures I site for predestination are Romans 8:29-30 & Ephesians 1:3-14.
To my understanding, all predestination in the word of God is according to the Cross.
Romans 8:29, “For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.”
It begins with Jesus.
Predestination is God’s intent that nothing (no sin) could be against us, according to the acquittal in the blood of Jesus.
Romans 8:30, “Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.”
Ephesians 1:3-14 says,
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. 7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; 8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: 11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: 12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
You see, the seal of the Holy Spirit comes after we have believed. Predestination is based on our decision…our CHOICE, after having heard the gospel and then believing (Vs. 13). This is the earnest of our inheritance. Our destiny.
God desires a bride who agrees to be His.
As I stated, even earlier in the exchange (and you can read it all if you like here),
Every man faces an eternity. Whether it be heaven or hell is our choice.